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    Vicky your pieces of US Health care are my favorites. I don’t know if you’ve experienced insured health care recently- it’s TERRIBLE.Pathetic. An appt with an MD (if you’re lucky- & not an appt with a PA or NP) the MD does absolutely nothing but refer you to labs- a 3rd party laboratory, and if your numbers don’t show anything remarkable, your complaint(s) are invalid. Period. Who oversees lab results?

    “Everyone assumes lab results are correct. For Kenneth Drew, the results showed he had HIV in 2011. By the time he found out the lab was wrong, his relationship with his wife was badly damaged. The Alabama couple separated, both distraught about the diagnosis ” Hidden Errors

    I am not buying recent lab work I had done – & infuriated with my crappy Cigna health plan. Example of today’s managed “care”: you dial an 800# to set an appointment (with a call center, not the actual medical office- a total stranger who knows nothing of you or your medical history or complaints, but WILL hear your private information, and has access to your reason for making the appointments- mind you, this is just a call center worker, NOT a nurse or medical professional) they then set up the appt in the system. Another “system” has your software, and the MD (NP, rather) sees you, does nothing- gives no advice except for the most rudimentary “” platitudes- enters your complaints/reason for visit into a Software Program- now they are on the Dr’s smartPHONES – and has you do lab work. So, with the lab, the software, and the call center kids, who all has my private data?? Everything is done “cafeteria buffet” style – you shift to the next platter, and then on and on in a line, never just one chef, never just one private cook. Oh I forgot the best part, when your lab results are in, a call center employee calls you with the results! NOT a medical person- a kid or dropout hired at a phone bank to give you the information. How long til India does that job that right now Americans are doing? I am so disgusted.. it is SO completely changed from 2007, when I had major treatment & saw ONLY my own private doctor in HER office, and dealt only with skilled nurses in the oncology dept. The care given was with “love”, if one can call it that, and very private, personal. Now it’s so very clinical- and “managed” and terrible. Utterly rotten.

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      “everything done cafeteria style” – line up and get your tray with your pill on it. That’s the model of the Russian health care system. Mass appointments.

      From your description, it sounds like I was right about how the system would work. I’ll bet the facilities are beautiful though right?

      The reason that just do lab work is because they are moving to a system of care that is chemistry based. If they don’t pick up anything in your body chemistry, then as you say, your complaint is invalid. Nurse Practitioners and PAs don’t have the education to diagnose anything but a broken bone or bleeding. If you get a cut, you’re good. If you have something really wrong, you’re SOL.

      It’s evil because the purpose of it is applied genetic research – not health care.

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        Re-reading this. I and other Americans (and immigrants let’s not forget those “folks” as the Left loves to call them “folks” 🙂 we are now entering the “-ization” stage of health “care”. I’d be thrilled if you joined a Facebook group Ive just joined. It is for patients and others affected by a very expensive to treat illness. It’s more than expensive- it is “catastrophic” to every sufferer both in term of cost and effect on sufferer’s shortened miserable life. Pattern is developing in which patients are being ignored by their clinicians. They’re being sent home from ER with no education on what to expect, their test results, nothing- as if dumping a bus passenger off to the “next stop”. It’s a bit scary Vicky! But, your warning I *hope* no I hope and pray- bah, won’t happen. It will ALL be too late won’t it. Hm still have flicker of hope.

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    So.. Ms Davis, you are becoming much more well-known lately from what I gather! Good for you. You are very, very smart. You yourself have gathered immense sheaves (‘e’-sheaves? Get things in hard copy too for your own files Ms D.) Yesterday was an exact reality in no wise deficient of any thing at all this very research piece you’ve done. Why, it was practically by script exactly what you warned of in this article: Friday was my first real telemedicine appointment using BannerHealth’s website. I got an MD, an American, and a very bright man. When I asked his advice concerning my rather debilitating symptoms he urged me to get to ER, not urgent care, as soon as I can, which I did. BannerHealth was the Emergency Hospital “in-network”. Ive been to that hospital before no less than a month ago and left in disgust as in the lobby it was a teeming mass of millions all waiting to be seen what seemed in vain! mind you this is an E.R., not a clinic… Imagine my surprise when I entered E.R. on last Friday to find it empty. In giant lobby there may have been three other patients waiting to be seen. I had barely sat my bottom in a chair to wait when my name was called. Vitals checked, symptoms given, much concern and urgency was expressed by the intake nurse about my symptoms. I was led into a bed almost immediately, the nurse escorting me laughed at my asking “Where did all the patients go?/ Did you kill them all?” Ha, I was not far wrong. Urine and blood were gathered and I waited for MD to do his rounds with the patients to give me the scoop. My curtain was pulled shut but I could hear patients consulting with doctors to the right, left, and front of me. I was baffled why the elderly woman who was in so much discomfort and pain, complaining of shooting chest pains, weakness- was told it was “gas” and to be released. Even that frail old lady (I could not but hear her, she had the quavering gentle voice of a very older lady) was questioning that diagnosis and asked “but, but, are you sure? it doesn’t feel like gas” No EKG, no search into cause.. just a “guess” Dr made, and got her hell out of that hospital. Patient beside me a male, sounded young maybe 30-ish, he was moaning, arghhhing in pain, oh dear I thought I wonder what happened to this man. Here comes the doctor I shall get the scoop shortly and I overheard “Sir, sounds like COVID to me, so I am going to go ahead and release you” The young man said Wha?? NO way. This is COVID? (I am going verbatim best of my memory) NO labs but the most basic of vital stats taken no cultures no x rays. Matter of fact I suspected maybe he has pancreatitis like Ive got, based on his pains? I could hear the man questioning the idea of his symptoms being from COVID, the doctor gave him the old soft shoe “well COVID is a funny disease, it can do all sorts of things” what utter rubbish, I thought. My turn! Here comes doctor to my bed: “Welp, your electrolytes are ok so I am releasing you” I could give a shit about my electrolytes, I know they’re ok. I am worried if Ive thrombosis of splenic vein. I’m concerned the symptoms are typical of Diabetes 3c (caused by my own disease, Chronic Pancreatitis of many years ill, very dangerous position to be in for me, the symptoms I had, have! are definite reasons to go to hospital and every one of my symptoms were ignored and I was released. THIS is the state of hospitals right now this is the consensus and result of some directive certainly. Vicky, if I were to picket the hospital, what should I display on the sign? “BANNER IS KILLING PATIENTS” or what? I very much wish to do this picket. Printed copies to hand out of your article or at least some copy paste parts would be very educational. I do understand the laws and if I am on a public sidewalk and not on property of hospital I should be ok, I think. My wonderful husband warned me before I went that absolutely nothing would be done (at the hospital). I said well I figured that, but I may finally get my own Primary Care Physician out of the deal (I did! after breaking into tears, and demanding that I was specifically advised by teledoc YOU people (meaning Banner) would GET me my Primary Care) I was given a business card with two MD’s names and numbers, I said this still is no good- I;ll call and no one will answer nor return my calls- hospital doctor said plain “You WILL be seen by one of them within the week”. We’ll see when I try to call them Monday. Vicky, the look on the “I’m releasing you” doctor’s face (his name? Douglas Patton) was one of a man with some morals left in him, I could see he detested lying to the patients. I thought to myself, a few more days of this and he’ll suicide himself, and I felt awful sorry for the man. This isn’t some corporation lying about artificial ingredients in their snack foods, tthese are PHYSICIANS sworn to do no harm, LYING to patients to clear out their rooms! Vicky do you ever get SO mad, so darn mad that you cry? I was so angry- the doctor at Banner appeared a good man to me! he appeared a good man, and he lied to everyone. Can you imagine what is going through his conscience. I hope he sees this, and gets out of all that mess. I’d rather grow corn than have to lie to people which may cause harm to them, even their death.

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    Your article is a couple of years old but you are spot on

    In the neighborhood villages now they have Village Clinics set up at the local Walgreens all over Dallas North Texas

    Seems they had these in the pipeline for many ‘states’

    And I worked for a company called teledoc 2015
    The first thing on the get it done list was telemedicine for psychiatric medicine

    DSM-V check it out – social media and mental health working on the diagnosis and revenue codes to work in to the system


    Version 5 of that very outfit that defines these ailments
    DSM-5. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Illnesses is the latest edition of the American Psychiatric Association’s professional reference book on mental health and brain-related conditions. Also known as the DSM-5, this is the main guide for mental health providers in the U.S. The latest version, the DSM-5-TR, was published in 2022.

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      Vicky Davis

      It’s a deep rabbit hole you’re jumping into. A very important one – but deep. Look at the bio for David Brailer in this article:

      They’ve destroyed our health care system while they were internationalizing it. We don’t really have a health care system now. We have police state information collection and sharing locations where the employees wear white coats.


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